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#18 Gary Dugan - The Global CIO Office

  • Stefan Wagner
  • Apr 25, 2021
  • 1 min read

Updated: May 6, 2025

The Nalu Finance Podcast


In this episode of Nalu Finance, we sit down with Gary Dugan, CEO of The Global CIO Office, to explore the evolution of long-term investing across asset classes and regions.

Gary dives into decades of investment insight, including:

  • How to distinguish investing, speculating, and betting

  • Why the 60/40 portfolio may be outdated

  • The role of AI and ESG in modern allocation

  • How to use derivatives to enhance risk-adjusted returns

He also shares what 38 years in investment management have taught him about risk, discipline, and opportunity.




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